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governor romney's pledge of not reducing the deficit or not adding to the deficit is by burdening middle class families, the average middle class family with children would pay $2,000 more. >> others have estimated the total value of the tax cuts would be some $5 trillion over ten years. governor romney says he will keep it deficit neutral and pledges there is one thing he won't do no matter what. >> i will not under any circumstances, raise taxes on middle income families. i will lower taxes on middle income families. now, you kite a study. there is six other studies that looked at the study you described and say it's completely wrong. >> the president based his assertion about a $2,000 tax increase on a study by the tax policy center which had exempted some tax deductions from any cuts in its analysis. then it concluded the plan could only be deficit neutral with a tax hike on the middle class and obama ads are hammering away. >> why won't obama level with us about the tax plans. >> the tax policy center, however, later changed its assessment. it said if romney put all deductions on th
to avoid that before the end the year with the deficit reduction plan that deals with the expiring tax cuts and the $1 trillion cuts to defense and domestic programs. a new report out today says this could be a plan developing to help lawmakers move forward on it all. "new york times" reports that colorado democratic senator bennett and tennessee republican senator alexander are representing their parties and would in part set a deficit reduction target of $4 trillion over 10 years. congressional committee would do the work taking six to 12 months figuring out how to achieve that with tax increases and cuts to federal programs. if that fails, part two would then be an automatic deficit reduction structure in effect, likely similar to simpson-bowles. finally, lawmakers are likely under this framework, to vote to put off the tax increases and the automatic spending cuts physical some sometime in 2013. barring some action, here are examples of what would happen in 2013. if your income is $40,000 to $60,000, your taxes go up $2,000 next year. if you are in the top 20 percent with an income over
that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern obviously would just be for the -- his mental well-being. >> wait? what? mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get right to our panel th
. >> when he was asked what he would actually do to cut the deficit. he would eliminate funding for public television. (auidence b oos) >> that was his answer. finally, somebody is getting tough on big bird. it is about time. we did not know that the big bird was driving the federal deficit. >> and as far as public television they are happy that people can agree that everybody likes big bird. they continue to campaign today in virginia and cleveland. >> meantime, the vice presidential rrally was in a virginia. the end are a are both and deaf --the nra are both endorsing the from the ticket. >> i got a chance to cut through the average campaign and instead riss-- the next persovice-presidential debate will be in new york october 16th. we also have a voice presidential debate with paul ryan. we will have live coverage of that go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, weather and traffic updates and to watch all the presidential speeches. uninterrupted. and on digital 4.2. sometimes, speeches. uninterrupted. and on digital 4.2. sometimes, if you cannot remember. i don't spend m
for reducing the deficit. >> i just want to make sure i got this straight. he'll get rid of regulations on wall street but he's going to crack down on sesame street. thank goodness somebody's finally cracking down on big bird. who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits. elmo's got to watch out. >> and vice president joe biden was campaigning in iowa saying that mitt romney flip-flopped on his own tax cut plan that was the center piece of the gop campaign and biden challenged the republicans on the tax issue. >> you know the phrase he always used, obama and biden want to raise taxes by $8 trillion. guess what, yes, we do, in one regard, we want to let that trillion dollar tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have to bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax rate, that's called fairness where i come from. >> all right. so how will today's monthly jobs report impact the candidates? economists predict the unemployment rate could tick up from 8.1 to 8.2%. that could be bad news forpresident obama. nbc's brian mooar has the latest. >> even if it
cannot pay for his $5 trillion tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. we can't afford to go down that road again. we can't afford another round of budget busting tax cuts for the wealthy. we can't afford to gut our stmes in education or n energy or research or technology. we can't afford to roll back regulations on wall street banks or oil companies or insuran comp we can't afford doubl down on the same topdown economic policies that t u intothis mess. that is not a jobs plan. it's not a plan for our ecomy. it's not a plan to strengthened middle cls. it is not change. it is a relapse. and we're not going to do it. we haveeen th we have tried that. we are not going back. moving forward. beuse i' got a different view. we have a different view about how to .[createbs and prosperi. this country doesn't succeed when only the rich get richer. we succeed when everybody has a shot, when the middle classs getting biggerwhen there are ladders of opportunity into the middle class. our economy does not grow from the top down, it grows from the middle out. that's
for reducing the deficit. >> but i just want to make sure i got this straight. he'll get rid of regulations on wall street, but he's going to crack down on "sesame street." [ applause ] thank goodness somebody's finally cracking down on big bird. who knew that he was responsible for all these deficits. elmo's got to watch out. >> and vice president joe biden was campaigning in iowa saying that mitt romney flip-flopped on his own tax cut plan that was the center piece of the gop campaign and biden challenged the republicans on the tax issue. >> you know the phrase they always use, "obama and biden want to raise taxes by $1 trillion. guess what? yes, we do in one regard. we want to let that $1 trillion tax cut expire so the middle class doesn't have the bear the burden of all that money going to the super wealthy. that's not a tax raise. that's called fairness where i come from. >> and last night on "politics nation," jared bernstein explained to al sharpton that the math in mitt romney's tax plan doesn't add up. >> if you're going to cut taxes 20% across the board, which is mitt romney's pla
in the last 50 years. >> i put forward a specific $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. >> my number one principle is there will be no tax cut that adds to the deficit. >> it is not possible to come up with enough deductions and loop loopholes that only effect high income individuals to either avoid raising the deficit or burdennening the middle class. it's math. >> according to a nationwide poll last night 2/3 of people who watched the debate think romney won the showdown. the vice presidential candidates are scheduled to square off next week in kentucky. >>> the oakland athletics with one of the most amazing wins in franchise history after rallying from a 5-1 deficit. they beat texas 12-5 sweeping the series in front of a sold-out crowd. and they win the degrees -- division on the last game of the season. they are now the only team in major league baseball history to come back from five games down with fewer than 10 games to play. one of our solo reporters is at the coliseum. jackie with more. >> reporter: do you think they would do it any other way? 13 games back on june 30th. four
the deficit in half. it's now four years later. we still have trillion dollar deficits. >> reporter: mitt romney came into the debate trailing in the polls but that could change after last night's performance. >> anytime a challenger stands on the stage with the president in a first debate they tend to get a bounce. i expect that could happen here. >> reporter: the romney campaign believes the governor scored a knockout. >> i believe that governor romney was the clear winner of this debate. if it was a boxing match it would have been called. >> reporter: an instant cbs news poll chose romney the overwhelming winner. 46% of the people we surveyed said romney won the debate. but moderator and pbs anchor jim lehrer might not feel the same way. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things we have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their ch
to the same standard as well. >> first of all, we have a deficit plan, it's got health care savings. romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. he's got a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are you hearing about all the debate preps today. he o'clock najs that this is an important opportunity in her debate. people have a tendency to focus on the small things, like the color of a candidate's tie or the dramatic one liners, which is his need to get across the big picture message. he says if he does that, he thinks he can be effective over the course of the next three debates and ultimately win this thing. we heard this morning from governor chris christie of new jersey, i want to play you another clip from new jersey this morning. chris christ >> and so they're going start t
the math work on his deficit plan and his tax plan. are we going to get those details in the course of the debate? >> well, you know, david, i wish you guys were just as tough on the president. the president says he's going to create a million new manufacturing jobs. he doesn't say how. he says he's going to reduce the long-term debt and deficit by $4 trillion. doesn't say how he's going to do it. you know, let's be fair here. governor romney has laid out a direction and a vision for the direction of this country. he's not an accountant. he's not going to go line by line as much as you'd like him to do through the budget. but let's hold the president to the same standard and criticize him as well. >>> good morning, it is monday, october 1st. it's october, everybody. welcome to "morning joe." >> yeah, you know who's glad september's over? >> who? >> the jets. holy cow! >> i thought you were going to say mitt romney. with us on set, we have msnbc and "time" senior political editor mark halperin and national affairs editor for "new york" magazine john heilemann. guys. hi, willie. >> he
for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that keeps on giving. listen, if mitt romney doesn't produce a verbal or a physical gaffe tonight, then by and large, i think the republicans will probably say that he won. but, i think that mr. lehrer, a very honest broker, is going to do exactly what
in the coming months. that of course is a really big thing. more jobs will slash that deficit. >>> our third story, another day, another bad set of numbers for mitt romney. there are two new polls today by the american research group and they have mitt romney trailing president obama in two more swing states. five points in new hampshire and two in virginia. although i wanted to highlight the virginia one. there had been other polls to show that gap wider. this would be a much better than expected result than some of the others we've seen. this week, all in has not been kind to the republican candidate, as polls have shown him falling behind the president. but he is not showing any change in confident. >> i've got a little secret here and that is that obama campaign thinks that pennsylvania is in their pocket. they don't need to worry about it. and you're right and they're wrong. we're going to win pennsylvania. we're going to take the white house. >> he's going to have to overcome a big deficit to do it, but people do like a comeback kid. max, jen, the obama campaign press secretary. two ve
the biggest deficit in history. >> gretchen: who is responsible for the other 90 percent. somebody else? we'll break down the numbers next. >> brian: washington post had a problem. >> key to a woman's heart scaring her half to death. staging a plane crash and popped the question. >> gretchen: that would be an automatic no. -[ taste buds ] donuts, donuts! -who are these guys? -oh, that's just my buds. -bacon. -my taste buds. -[ taste buds ] donuts. how about we try this new kind of fiber one cereal? you think you're going to slip some fiber by us? okay. ♪ fiber one is gonna make you smile. ♪ [ male announcer ] introducing new fiber one nutty clusters and almonds. droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does. get $100 off select motorola 4g lte smartphones like the droid razr. seems they haven't been moving much lately. but things are starting to turn around because of business people like yo
tax plan without blowing up the deficit or sticking it to the middle class. that's the math . we can't afford to go down that road again. >> steve: so the day after his terrible performance even the new york times called him president xannex. they have gone in damage control mode . they were portraying romney as an extremist and now back to romney is a flip-flopper and a big fact liar . >> brian: i thought the senator was right when team obama got a earful. the strategy was to lay back and not make major mistakes. governor romney will be a true choice. he defined himself as competent and capable . he was making himself relevant and holding the job. that's what you walk away . he undid over two million worth of advertising. >> gretchen: he had a answer about the five billion, trillion argument that the president said. he said that is not my tax plan. and you can see the difference when they are on a stage together going after each another and back out on the stump. on the stump you can say whatever you want. these are people supporting each cand date. this is a moment romney respondin
to the deficit. >> a couple nights ago we had a debate. you may have got the chance to see that. >> reporter: before the new jobs numbers, romney had been riding a wave of momentum after this week's debate. he even got a pass from the president who never mentioned romney's comments on the 47% of americans who don't pay federal income taxes. >> there are 47% of the people who vote for the president no matter what. >> reporter: with an obama campaign ad still repeating those, romney tried to put an end to the controversy once and for all on fox. >> clearly in a campaign with hundreds and thousands of speeches and question and answer sessions, now and then you're going to say something that doesn't come out right. in this case i've said something that's completely wrong. >> reporter: romney heads next to florida where his economic message will still resonate. that state's unemployment rate while it has gone down in recent months is still well above the national average. wolf. >> jim acosta joining us, thanks very much. let's dig deeper right now with our chief political analyst gloria borger. g
and deficit and everything else in closing arguments . how good the moderator was. body language. the president would not look at mitt romney? >> steve: no. >> brian: he kept looking down . romm rom was staring at him. >> steve: he would look at jim lehrer like he is taking too much time. >> brian: i thought it was telling and you saw a guy that did one thing and i thought the b.b.c. katy k who never said anything nice about a republican. president obama has spent millions was dollars trying to show that governor romney was not worthy of being president. governor romney showed he was worthy and he is competent and all of that money was wasted to any of the 60 million who watched. >> steve: that's the beauty of seeing them side by side unfiltered and uninterrupt no commercials. in 30 second sound bites you can try to defend or define your opponent and that's what the president has done. last night, gretchen, when the president of the united states am mitt romney want to cut taxes for rich guys. mr. romney said mr. president, that is not the case. >> i know you and your running mat
about the economy, talking about the deficit, talking about four years of president obama would be detrimental to the country. it's pretty plain and simple. president obama and republican nominee mitt romney are laying low today because they're getting ready to prepare for the debate, so it's the number 2s on the campaign trail. right behind me here, here's paul ryan stumping here in new hampshire, a crucial battleground state. when he's done here, he goes to ohio later today. another very big important battleground state. and that's the whole idea here, as the president and mitt romney get ready for the debate. paul ryan and vice president joe biden are on the campaign trail. specific new hampshire. the race here is kind of close. the most recent poll shows president obama with a five-point advantage over mitt romney. definitely a very close contest here in new hampshire. this is a state that may not know paul ryan very well, but knows mitt romney very well, who was governor of neighboring massachusetts. he owns a vacation home here in new hampshire. spends a lot of time in thi
in the tie for the rest. they've now erased what's been a 13-game deficit. if the as win today, they would go straight to the series. that begins this weekend. as the as are making this incredible push to the playoffs, they are more reason to celebrate. it looks like the team will be staying put in oakland for at least the next five years. they won't be moving to the south bay, it doesn't look like, until 2018. that's because the coliseum authority recently handed the as, a five-year extension and lew wolff is apparently very interested in reaching an agreement to keep them here for the foreseeable future. some folks say winning will go a long way to keep the team here. >> people support the team and they love the team. we've been told they don't want to stay. but today, it's exciting, the fans will be out. the buzz around the bay is exciting. >> reporter: yesterday at the coliseum, as lined up to snatch up playoff tickets that are, on -- that are already on sale. if the as lose today they would still be in the playoffs, but the road looks a whole lot tougher. they would have to play a do --
's deficit. let's go to clayton. >> big story making headlines this morning. several days after the attack on the u.s. consulate. this is the story that the obama administration was sticking to. listen. >> this was not a preplanned premeditated attack that what happened initially was it was a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired in cairo as a consequence of the video. >> our current assessment is that what happened in benghazi was, in fact, initially a spontaneous reaction. >> what our assessment is as of the president is in fact what it began spontaneously in benghazi as a reaction to what had transpired some hours earlier in cairo. >> but as fox news reports, the administration knew within the first 24 hours that it was a terrorist attack. so why were americans left in the dark and how could potential coverup impact the election? here for fair and balanced debate is fox news contributor angela mcglowan and mclavigne. this seems like a big problem for the president. >> i don't see it that way. look, the president came out the morning after the attacks on september 12th. came o
tax rates 20%, as you said, keep the budget deficit from getting larger, and protect the middle class from any tax increases. well, look, if you're going to cut taxes and you're going to be revenue neutral about it, that is not increase the budget deficit, that means somebody is going to have to pay more to offset the fact that somebody is paying less. >> and who is going to pay more? >> well, what mitt romney initially said was that we will just -- we'll get that from the top 1%. we'll get that from wealthy folks. well, that's where the arithmetic comes in. if you look at all of the deductions, you sum them all up, every single tax deduction going to those high-end folk, they don't make up the difference. it's not enough to offset the rate cuts. so you'd have to go to the middle class. >> okay. well, ryan and romney are fond of bragging about how they'll be tough on issues. once again we give you the candidate. >> we'll also take medicaid as well as housing and food stamps, we'll take the dollars that are going in those programs, return them to the states where they'll grow at the ra
will will say he is going to cut the deficit, please. he wants $2 trillion in new defense spending that the pentagon didn't ask for. a 5 trillion-dollar tax cut wealthy that he won't say how he will pay for. >> i spoke to two different officials with the president, he said he was very calm, very cool, getting downtown in his hotel right now. remarkable to be calm this calm right now knowing so much is on the line, shep. >> shepard: a lot in deed. ed henry live in denver. let's bring in chris wallace. have you spoken to both camps today, what did you learn? >> i have been working the phones trying to get a preview and the most interesting thing i learned is that the romney camp says that their guy is going to really go on offense when it comes to the obama record. they had noticed in the polls that people are getting a little bit more optimistic about the economy, that romney is losing some of his edge in the polls on who would handle the economy better. so they say he is really going to take it to obama on the obama record over these past four years. and one of the points they are
the wealthy. and >> where he would cut the deficit and spending he said that he would eliminate funding for public television. (audience boos) >> that was his answer. and thank goodness somebody is getting tough on big bird. it is about time. we did not know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. >> obama has campaign events for virginia, cleveland, ohio. >> mitt romney and paul ryan are going to be holding their own debate. there are in virginia. and the ticket and why this was a good night for americans. >> i got the chance to see the attacks, the counter attacks and the association with this campaign. and the next presidential debate is on october 16th and new york. the next vice presidential debate will be on our go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, weather and traffic updates and to watch all the presidential speeches. uninterrupted. and on digital 4.2. >> still ahead, gasoline prices are jumping. i just filled up yesterday. i almost got a heart attack. $4.60 per gallon. taking a live look. we will update you on gasoline prices and also www.kron4.com for
to and to link deficit numbers. >>catherine: forget the election, they're already casting ballots. one example is this was early voting and the state of iowa. catherine heenan, kron 4. >>jacqueline: this warming trend is going to become significant. the highs for the inland valleys were quite warm. ninety-three's in antioch, livermore. with and 90's. 70's-93 in antioch but take a look at the coast. cool in daly city. 55 degrees in half moon bay with that really dense fog. it is not going to clear out. this is a live look at the golden gate. visibility is quite low. and at half moon bay, just one half mile visibility at this moment. we can see that it is going to change, overnight. that fog will return with cloud coverage returning. it should lend her by noon. temperatures will be cooler with 70's, 80's by-noon, clearing. temperatures much, much, warmer with the reversal. it will seek warmer temperatures for the inland valleys. and for the bay shore, and even 70's along the coast guard tomorrow, plus an for most locations. '70s, '80s. 78 in the san jose. antioch, livermore. and concord, pleasan
policies. all he needs to talk about is failure, crisis, the inability of this president to get the deficit under control, deficits mean new taxes. debt mean new taxes. unemployment means misery in this country. if he can understand that, then he can win this debate. what it is for mitt romney is saying i welcome you into my house. let's come in, have this discussion. if you hents wanted to come into my house before, now think about it. >> brian: just one thing that will be interesting 'cause they'll have a whole section on obamacare and you have the romneycare incident. so -- >> he's an expert, mitt romney on health care. he did it differently in massachusetts. he shouldn't be embarrassed about it. he can talk about it in a real way. >> brian: and he has recently on the stump. peter johnson, jr., thanks. >> we'll be watching. >> brian: and analyze tomorrow. 11 minutes before the top of the hour. up next, do you always hate what you see when you look in the mirror? up next, dr. keith ablow tells us if you are normal or nuts. right there, a free session for martha mccallum. on this day in hi
that if we spend another trillion dollars a galatians on wall street that we will the find. with the deficit this appearing and jobs repairing. however, as he has been opposiopposing- presenting this plans. but how he would hold that deficit. >> the debate is scheduled next on october 16th will have that for you, live. go to our new channel. comcast 193 for the latest news, weather and traffic updates and to watch all the presidential speeches. uninterrupted. and on digital 4.2. and ioctober 11th. we will continue to follow this and let you know of anything to go to. >> 8:26 board with more bay 4 news contra costa health officials are on alert as more birds have tasted positive for west nile virus. the mosquito district saying that six thirds and a chicken were found in concord, brentwood, discovery bay and walnut creek. the recent heat wave caused this to spread rapidly. people that were living in this area it need to take their own preventative measures. so they do not get and this is often a first sign of west nile. >> the word of honda is expanding its recall. with 820,000 vehicles. addi
into massachusetts and turned deficits into surpluses, and that he actually is committed to doing this, and that he will do it because he has a record of fulfilling the commitments he makes to solve problems. i think that's what -- what he will try and convey. >> let's talk about libya for a moment. you've gone on the recording saying ambassador stevens suffered the consequences, in your words, of a lazy, detached president. that's tough criticism out there. >> that's right. >> why do you stand by that? >> well, look, what we have is a situation all over the middle east, and you showed some clips of what's happening in pakistan. we have -- we have taken a difficult situation and turned it into a disaster, because we have a president that thought he was somehow going to charm that part of the world into loving america. what he's done is increased the antagonism toward america there by having a failed foreign policy. and harry truman used to say, "the buck stops here" talking about the presidency. and the buck should stop at the president's desk. he has created that climate. he has created the anti-a
a touchdown, wing touchdown to the seattle seahawks seahawks, not the packers. if only the deficit, with the replacement refs or. >> someone where must have stood up for the replacement refs, never saw that paul ryan and barack obama agreed this should happen. >> we have the wisconsin governor scott walker, tough on the unions, coming out in favor of the referee union. >> absolutely. and wonderful field day for cartoonists, marvellous car as soon as, drawings of new signals for referees who have replacement referees who have no special memory or let somebody else try it. and great cartoons, but, yeah, no debate here. >> rick: kirsten was this political pandering, all of these politicians right before election day coming out and rallying around, i guess, so of a no-brainer cause? >> it seems no-brainer, i don't ever pretend to know anything about sports or related to sports. i don't want to give analysis. >> oh, let's pick up on that, time magazine called it the pander bowl in terms of obama's remarks, he never answers shouted out questions, but there there's something good out of
-term and concerns about the national debt and deficit. concerns about jobs specifically in colorado. if you look at the markets, from the time the president got in office until now, you can see the chart that we have. it just scales up and up an up. the administration also has a couple of positives in the housing. seeing positive sign in recent week and month. out thing private sector employment growing. they are but on the negative side. you have this list of stories that they're dealing with. the libya fall-out. the new stuff about fast and furious that william la jeunesse had tonight. you had the slow g.d.p. growth and revision down to 1.3. continued unemployment. the afghanistan policy questions i'm ran threat. then the u.s. -israel relationship. these are constant stories. what about the back and forth and putting it all in perspective? >> on friday, there will be another jobs report that isn't good enough. i don't think we will see change in the jobless picture either this friday or friday november 2. before the election. i think people made up their mind about the economy a while ago. the
. it does not do anything if the deficit we have had. you give the bigger growth to the federal government. we have to have policies that provide the certainty to the private sector, the policies that enable them to grow. again, this is not saying we don't need any regulation but we need to have smart regulations. in california dairy year 2011, 71,000 pages of new regulations were institutessed. the people in the coal industry, when you look at what has happened to them when we could not get cap and trade moved through they are getting decimated. we have to have a vision like ronald reagan said, talking about a new dawn for this american economy. >>neil: congressman, you are among those who were brought in, in the republican avalanche that brought in 83 republicans and that tipped the house of representatives to the republicans and made john boehner speaker. you are in a race if your life with an ad everyone is talking about. the fact of the matter is, republicans seem to not have quite that same wind behind their back. they might get it, and you often remind me, polls are fleeting, but ar
, if you are going to say that you are going to deal with jobs and your deficit, then there is a fundamental question, how. and if you are not willing to answer that you have abbey advocated your -- >> bill: money from the folks and he he will spend more. >> yeah, yeah, yeah. make charles krauthammer happy. >> bill: that's what he is saying. >> it did not make the people out in america that much happier this guy being elitist. >> bill: what do you say -- >> are you kidding me? i will take a hamburger. >> bill: we got rasmussen and sabato. >> that's fine. >> bill: what do you say monday when the first polls come out that will reflect this debate how much of a bump does governor romney get? 5 pointle? 4 -- points, 4 points? >> i think romney will get 6 to 7 points. >> bill: that's big, beckel. >> that's. until the second debate. the second debate when the expectation is on romney to start to deliver something besides what he gave you last night and he did a good job. he is going to have to explain. if you want to beat an incumbent president you have got to do it wi
implemented that have added so greatly to our debt, the deficit spending, the broken promises, unemployment numbers, the allies on the international stage who are now confused and more distrustful of america. all the problems that have been created in the last four years, his failed policies leading to those problems. he couldn't defend them. so he was lost in having a strong, core conviction about why he should be elected. he didn't have a trel prompter in front of him and he didn't have the filter of the liberal media, precking him and coddling him and ushering him through a debate, a venue that he is so used to, so the reality that really hit home for all of those millions of viewers. >> greta: i can't imagine -- even the people who were most critical of him, who are his most passionate supporters, i can't imagine, even though they thought he did a lousy job at the debate, that's my word, not theirs, but they have harsh words for him. they are still going to vote for it -- for him. how do you measure whether or not it had an impact on the indecideds and whether or not it appealed to thos
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